posted May 15, 2003 07:52 PM            

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I want to see some of Buscema's Thor reprinted. Give us a Masterworks or a decent reprint or an essentials. PLEEEEEASE

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posted May 15, 2003 07:56 PM               

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A bit iffy on this one, to tell you the truth. As much as I like Big John's pencils, there weren't that many memorable stories on his Thor stint (IMHO).

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posted May 15, 2003 11:01 PM            

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get all of Kirby's Thor reprinted first!...

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posted May 17, 2003 05:15 PM               

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I'd like to see it all reprinted in chronological order as well. But at the rate they are going and ever changing market conditions, most of us may be deceased before they get to it...

Perhaps (if they do it) a Marvel Visionaries on John Buscema will include a Thor job by him. One of the nicest Buscema Thor stories was in Silver Surfer though. That is already in a Masterwork addition, soon to be reprinted.

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posted May 17, 2003 05:30 PM               

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I think that story was his first handling of Thor outside the Avengers, and I'd imagine that it was what made him the obvious successor to Kirby on Thor's book.

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posted May 19, 2003 05:13 AM            

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I just wish Marvel could get past reinventing the first three volumes of Thor.

They are something of a given, but it's really 4, 5 etc. that the true collector needs as these are not only some of the truly classic stories (the introduction of Mangog) but also quite possibly the hardest issues of any old Marvel title to obtain.

For some reason there were problems with Thor - be it a printing problem or low distribution - hence many of the issues from 130-200 have all but ceased to exist.

Anyone with a full run of Thor Vol.1 has an impressive collection.

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posted May 19, 2003 01:48 PM               

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Getting later THOR Masterworks may not be a priority for me, as over the last 5 years I've slowly, painfully been getting my hands on a pile of them. (One or two at a time!) But I never know what the store I go to will have (or not).

I agree with the "printing" thing. After all these years, it's so cool to finally be able to see ORIGINAL printings of Kirby-Colletta art. I'm sure most by now are aware of the shabby job Marvel has ALWAYS done with their reprints, from the mid-60's to today, because of a lack of original negatives, multiple-generations of stats, etc. Looking at the originals, I can honestly say that the QUALITY of the linework varies greatly from isue to issue! Can Vince Colletta really be to blame for this-- or the printer? Who can say?

Whereas, the work Vince did in 1968-69 on CAPTAIN MARVEL (with Gene Colan, Don Heck, Dick Ayers & Frank Springer) is possibly the FINEST I've EVER seen from him. (But then again, the size of original art shrunk right around that time-- I wonder how much if any that may have had to do with it?)

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posted May 19, 2003 06:36 PM            

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Originally posted by asgardian:
For some reason there were problems with Thor - be it a printing problem or low distribution - hence many of the issues from 130-200 have all but ceased to exist.

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I don't think there was low distribution. I just think that people snap up those issues in the back issue market. I think really, a lot of people have those issues in their collections, and that's why they're harder to find. My theory is because of the scarcity of higher grade copies of those comics. The lower grade stuff, with the Marvel flaking, etc., are relatively plentiful. But I rarely, rarely see high grade Thors for sale. There's demand! But I'd say the higher grade stuff is gone all the way up to about issue #230 or so, in my shopping experience.

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posted May 19, 2003 09:05 PM            

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some of Kirby's Thor were reprinted by Marvel in the 70s, e.g. Marvel Spectacular and Special Marvel Editions. It is not difficult to collect these, and I believe most of these issues have not been reprinted in Essentials/Masterworks. In fact, I have two copies of Special Marvel Edition #2 currently on eBay - reprints of Thor 120-122. (apologies for the spam, but these are really nice issues, hence I hope they can find nice homes)

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posted May 20, 2003 02:58 PM               

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I'd avoid MARVEL SPECTACULAR given a choice. Here's why: the priting is ABOMINBABLE (fuzzy, lines disappearing or merging-- come to think of it, some of Colletta's inks looks STRONGER in the reprint); each story is MISSING a page-- or TWO; the TALES OF ASGARD stories in the back are from DIFFERENT issues than the stories up front!

There's a reason I gave up entirely on Marvel reprints in the mid-70's...

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posted May 21, 2003 12:14 AM               

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Yeah, the Marvel Spectaculars have some chopped panels, just like the FF reprints on Marvel's Greatest Comics, but they're nothing like the Thor reprints on the Marvel Treasury Editions where they chopped ALL of the Tana Niles panels (to leave out the Recorder and Colonizers from Rigel story).

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posted May 21, 2003 02:12 AM               

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One of the worst I found was MARVEL SUPER-HEROES, which reprinted HULK and SUB-MARINER from TALES TO ASTONISH. As the 70's dragged on, 20 pages became 19, then 18, then 17... First they'd cut a page from the SUB-MARINER story. Then 2. In MSH #50 & 51, they cut 3 pages, plus a page from the HULK stories, and in MSH #52 they cut 4 pages from the SUB-MARINER story. My God! How was the thing supposed to make any sense at all??

I have a pile of original ASTONISH issues, but clearly I'm gonna need to get my hands on the ones I'm still missing...

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